Being stabbed in the cervix.
It's happened three times in as many weeks.
I think I'd rather step on a Lego barefoot.
Wednesday, September 8, 2010
Friday, September 3, 2010
The Diagnosis
Email sent July 28th:
Kyle and I went to meet with the geneticist yesterday and I just kinda wanted to give you an update. We still haven’t told our parents anything but I think we plan to pretty quickly now that we feel like we have all the information. If this is TMI, I’m sorry…
I know a lot of this probably won’t mean much to you (lots of it doesn’t mean a whole lot to me) but it helps me to type it all out.
The geneticist confirmed with us that one of us does carry the condition that Madelyn had. I think they called a balanced translocation. Basically, part of chromosome 5 is stuck to chromosome 13 and 13 stuck to 5. He kind of explained how chromosomes can be moved around and a person still ‘work’ but whatever. He told us again that in actuality there is a 50/50 chance that this could happen again. However, after talking to some specialist lady he increased our odds of having another child with a similar condition to Madelyn to 20-40% (my mind immediately goes to, “that’s an F+ “)
We talked in depth about the negative outcomes of our situation. There are 4 different arrangements that the chromosomes could possibly make; 2 should produce a normal child, Madelyn had one of the negative outcomes and then there is the inverse of what she had that would also be negative. He said that if one of the 2 negative outcomes were to happen again there really would be a 0% chance of the child functioning normally in society – and not even like severe mental retardation or something like that, like human vegetable if the child were even to survive after birth. He said he has seen/read about some cases where the person can live until 20 or so but it’s not a happy story. He also said that if we were to find out we were pregnant with a child that had this issue that if we did choose to terminate the pregnancy it would really just be a ‘timing shift’. In a terrible, weird way that makes me feel a little better and that that COULD be an option if it needed to be.
I’ve never really had a clear cut answer on the whole prochoice/prolife debate and being thrown into this situation I feel like the line has become even more blurry. Please don’t judge me too harshly.
We talked about our options and we really have 4 that all seem viable. 1. We try again naturally and hope for the best. 2. We do in vitro fertilization with pre-implantation genetic diagnosis (IVF with PGD). 3. We find out who the carrier is and use a donor sperm or egg. 4. Adoption
Originally we thought that option 1 was the best for us – why I’m not exactly sure. I’d be considered a high-risk pregnancy (and probably will no matter what we do) and would get all the special treatment insurance would allow and we would know about baby’s genetics by around week 11. But, if the chromosome did not line up and even if we found out at 11 weeks I’m not sure that I would be able to emotionally go through the same pain I did with Madelyn. Then there would be the issues of do we terminate or do we not and the emotional pain that comes with that decision and activities.
I will need to talk to my primary care physician more about it but the geneticist seems to think that we don’t have an unlimited number of times we could try this option either. My ‘lady parts’ are already weakened from my classic c-section I had with Madelyn and because weird parts of it where stretch due to the size of her head. One school of that was (and maybe still is, the geneticist differed to my doctor) that 3 c-sections and you’re done. Put this together with the 40% chance that the baby isn’t health and I don’t really like those odds…
I think our option choice now is option 2. We spoke with Kyle’s insurance yesterday and they cover 3 full tries of the IVF with PGD in a lifetime. That’s a big deal because it is freaking expensive and from what I understand nobody gets insurance like that. Our thought was if we try naturally again, we really have like a 30% chance of having a healthy baby (50% chance of getting pregnant and staying that way and then a 60% chance of baby being healthy) – I don’t really like those odds – and the outcome is not positive. Then, we’ve ‘wasted’ 2 years of time and a whole lot of emotions and in 2 years who knows if Kyle will be a the same job, and if not then we’re out of pocket who knows how much for these medical procedures. If we do this stuff now we save time, frustration, potential heartache, and money.
IVF with PGD is basically the same as IVF with an extra step (from what I understand). They pump us full of hormones and then start harvesting. Then they put things together to create embryos. After the embryos have divided a few times they run tests to determine if the chromosomes are balanced properly then those are implanted and hopefully attach.
Even this has ethical implications that until a few days ago I was really unaware of. At what stage do you think that life begins? Some say the sperm and the egg are ‘life’, or when they join together, or when they implant, or when there is a heartbeat, or when the fetus can life on its own with no help from the womb… To be honest, I don’t know the answer (and, if I determine an answer for me few others will agree with me). If I’m able to say “Ok, this is not wrong. I’m doing this with the best intentions, have my future children at heart while making this decision, and I’ve weighed all of the options and outcomes and this is the right one for me,” then I’m doing pretty good in my book.
Option 3 and 4 for us will always be options but, you know, it’s just not the same…
One thing that I think we have going for us is that getting pregnant isn’t the hard part, it’s having the right chromosomes.
I have a meeting with my doctor today then Kyle and I go back to her next week. We’ve filled out all the paperwork to see a infertility specialist and just need to fax a few things to insurance and have a few tests run before we can meet with them.
We also found out that this issue could have been in our family for thousands of years, or just the one of us could be the carrier (just like the original information we were given about Madelyn). We still don’t want to know who, of the 2 of us, is the carrier but we feel like we need to give this information to our family. We will obviously tell our parents and siblings first but also feel we need to get the word out to our cousins as well. We could narrow down just who we would have to tell (possibly) by testing our parents and if one of them came back with this chromosome translocation then we would know it was that side of the family we would need to tell. But, right now, we don’t feel like we’re willing to find out who it is and jeopardize our marriage just to lift a slight weight for someone else. That, I know, is selfish but our rationalization is that all of my cousins are much younger and years from having kids and really so are Kyle’s. Once we’re done building our family, hopefully in the next few years, it won’t matter to us who has what in their DNA and we may be willing to find out at that point and direct the concern accordingly. Right now, though, we feel they have the right to know that this could be a possibility and to take precautions if they feel they want to. I don’t believe the likelihood of a cousin having this issue is very high but I need to see if I can get that answer before we announce anything.
Obviously, this isn’t an ideal situation and I wouldn’t want anyone to have to make the decisions we’ve had to in the last couple of months. We also know that no matter what we choose to do someone will think it is wrong; there doesn’t seem to be a one size fits all answer.
Friday, July 30, 2010
The Update
This email was sent out May 14th:
Hello Family, After a long week of meeting with specialists, hospitals, and hospice workers we have many more answers to our questions. None of which were positive but Kyle and I feel better having answers at least. We learned that this is probably not a chromosomal issue because baby does not have any 'facial flaws' and from the neck down baby is perfectly healthy. That means it was probably a fluke or an issue with a blood vessel or something - unfortunately, we will probably never know that. Last Friday we did get some happy news. We went in for yet another sonogram but this time we wanted to find out baby's gender. We've having a baby girl and we've named her Madelyn Elizabeth. I’ve attached a couple of photos of our precious Madelyn from that sonogram. Our little angel is breach so you will see her little foot on the right side of her face covering her eye.
A funny story about Madelyn’s name: from the very beginning we knew that, if our child was a boy, his middle name would be Edward. This is Kyle’s middle name and his father’s middle name and goes back several generations. So, of course, in our over analytical minds we needed to make sure that our child’s initials wouldn’t spell anything that would cause them to be teased – and out came the spreadsheets. ‘AEW’ – ok, ‘BEW’ – ok, ‘CEW’ – ok…then we got to ‘J’… after a good chuckle we decided that this probably was not appropriate. That didn’t stop us, or Brookie, from calling our buddle of joy our ‘JEW baby’. Once we found out that we were having a little girl and had all but decided on a name we toyed with giving Madelyn a name that began with a ‘J’ – just because thinking of those initials always made me smile and giggle…but Madelyn knew that her name was Madelyn and would only respond to us when we called her by her correct name. Luckily, our baby girl is not in any pain now and we will make sure that she are not in pain after delivery - however, that appears to be all that we are able to do for her. We are not able to correct the problem so fixing the symptoms would only 'delay the inevitable' and cause more pain (physical and emotional) for everyone involved. Because of baby's head size we need to go in for another sonogram next week to see if it's getting larger from the fluid buildup (right now her head measures at about 42 weeks while the rest of her body measures at 29 weeks). If her head is getting larger we have a c-section scheduled for the following week. However, the problem with this is that her little lungs will not be fully formed and she will probably basically suffocate to death sometime after delivery. Ideally, we want to wait until June 16th – which is the absolute longest the doctor is willing to wait. At that point, we'll do a c-section and just see what happens. No one is really able to give us a time frame for our little Madelyn's life. It could be 5 minutes; it could be 5 weeks - maybe even 5 months. All we do know is that Madelyn is just as stubborn as her mom and dad are and will hold out just as long as she can (she really shouldn't have made it this long according to statistics). Even though her life here on earth will be very short she has brought many, many people lots of joy and happiness during a time that we needed it very much. Every single doctor, nurse, and social worker we've met along this journey has been absolutely wonderful. I feel like they sincerely care about our feelings and only want the best for us and our family. We know that our grieving has only begun and we are trying to plan and take care of all the ancillary items before baby Madelyn arrives so that we can enjoy her short life together. Even though this is a horrific situation and I would never wish this on my worst enemy, Kyle and I are trying to focus on the 'silver linings' right now and trying to stick to our routines as much as possible. • We are super blessed to have our family and friends around us to care and support us as we go through this live event. • We are blessed to know that Madelyn’s short life will only be filled with love, not suffer and sorrow. • We are blessed to know that when Madelyn joins our Lord up in heaven she will be surrounded with family that will love her as we would (and probably keep her more entertained). • We are blessed to have gone to Switzerland which made our marriage stronger and for us to be able to work better as a team • We are very blessed to have not found out about Madelyn’s condition before we did – we could not have changed anything no matter when she was diagnosed and it saved us weeks or worry and wonder. • We are so blessed to have moved into our home when we did. If we had moved in earlier the nursery would have been complete and if we would have moved in any later who knows if we would have moved at all. • And most importantly, we are blessed to be having a baby girl. I was informed by Kyle’s father that if Madelyn was a boy he WOULD be going camping during his short life and if that meant I had to come along because I was attached to the child so be it.
Webster's Team - Take 2
This is the email that was sent out to our family on May 5th:
I know that email probably isn't the best way to say this. But I'm awake and hopefully I will be able to give you all the information I have clearly and concisely - I wouldn't be able to do that in person.
On Monday we went in for a routine sonogram (mostly because of my weight gain and they knew insurance would pay for it because of that). They found an 'abnormality' and sent us back over to our doctor right after that to discuss. Dr. Nash wasn't able to tell us much but set up an appointment for us to visit the high-risk OB yesterday.
Yesterday we went in for another sonogram and MRI. What they found was that baby's brain hasn't developed into the 2 hemispheres, is much bigger than it should be with fluid on the brain, and has a bone growth on the top of baby's head (they used medical terms but of course I don't remember them). The MRI wasn't able to tell us much more than that. We're trying to get an appointment with a neonatalogist for sometime this week to hear more about what will happen next. But right now the outcome is bleak. I don't have exact statistics but survival rates outside of the womb are slim and the chances for a 'normal life' are slimmer. They had said something about an amnio but the accuracy of a test like that now might not be correct and would not change our course of action. They've decided to wait until delivery to get the chromosome work up. As of now, we're going to continue as through it was a normal pregnancy and at about 38-39 weeks - if baby makes it that long - I'll be scheduled for a c-section (because of baby's head size). Kyle and I, or the doctors, haven't talked much about logistics and what will happen after delivery, I don't think we have enough information for that at this point. But, we have been given some information about hospice and support groups for people in our similar situation. Kyle and I are just taking things one hour at a time and have busied ourselves with putting the house together. Kyle's boss told him that Kyle won't be coming into work this week so I'm not alone - which is nice. We feel like God sent us to Switzerland to make us a stronger couple and to know when to lean on each other, and to prepare us for this. This is obviously devastating news but we're trying to take it in stride and know that it will lead to bigger and better in the future.
Monday, April 19, 2010
Doctor's Appointment - 28 weeks
It's been almost 2 weeks since my appointment. I'd love to say it wasn't very eventful - but that would be kinda a lie. The time with the doctor was fine - she pushed around on my belly, listened to the babies heart beat, asked some questions, and we talked about classes and such.
After that was the part that wasn't so fun.
They checked me for anemia and diabetes. Which means I had to drink this sugary orange Koolaid stuff then wait around for an hour while it got into my system. Then they had to take blood. The drink they gave me reminded me of Hi-C's Slimer flavor drink for the 90's. Anybody else remember that?
When it was time to draw blood they couldn't find my veins and had to poke me 4 times. I still have 2 massive bruises on my arms from where they poked me (yeah, 2 weeks later!) After some pain and torture they said they wouldn't call me with the results unless there was a cause for concern.
So guess what happened the next Monday? You guessed it! I got a call from the doctors office. When I called back no one would take my call so I left a message. Four hours later - right before the office closed - I called back because I wanted to know what was going on! Finally someone told me. Come to find out, my call was a mistake and that I was 'just fine'. Thanks for freaking me out then freaking me out more by not calling me back...
After that was the part that wasn't so fun.
They checked me for anemia and diabetes. Which means I had to drink this sugary orange Koolaid stuff then wait around for an hour while it got into my system. Then they had to take blood. The drink they gave me reminded me of Hi-C's Slimer flavor drink for the 90's. Anybody else remember that?
When it was time to draw blood they couldn't find my veins and had to poke me 4 times. I still have 2 massive bruises on my arms from where they poked me (yeah, 2 weeks later!) After some pain and torture they said they wouldn't call me with the results unless there was a cause for concern.
So guess what happened the next Monday? You guessed it! I got a call from the doctors office. When I called back no one would take my call so I left a message. Four hours later - right before the office closed - I called back because I wanted to know what was going on! Finally someone told me. Come to find out, my call was a mistake and that I was 'just fine'. Thanks for freaking me out then freaking me out more by not calling me back...
Expensive Weekend!
We thought we should start looking for the appliances we need to buy for our new house. We had decided on the brands we wanted but just needed to look around and compare price/etc. We've actually been out a couple of times before but needed to get serious about it.
We started with the washer/dryer. We knew we wanted LG or GE. We headed out to Best Buy (because we hadn't looked there yet) and found exactly what we wanted within 20 minutes - at a great price! But, of course, we needed to check around to see if it was the BEST price. So we wrote down some info and headed out to the car to make some calls. Everywhere we called either didn't offer that model or sold it for about $100 more per piece.
The last place we called was Sears. They said they would honor that price and beat it by 10% - AWESOME! So, back into Best Buy we go... We asked if they would match that price. After some calling and manager approval they gave us Sears' price, and free delivery, and Best Buy points (about $20 worth), and the option to come back in a couple weeks to move it to their Best Buy Credit Card for 18 month free financing (I didn't want to open the card just yet seeing that we're trying to buy a house and all). So, we got a $1,600 MSRP washer/dryer for just over $1,000 - not too shabby in my book!
Kyle couldn't really handle any more shopping on Saturday so we took the night off.
Sunday we headed over to the Mart to check out Mattresses, Dining Tables, and Sofas. We found the mattress we wanted was on sale for about $200 less - CHARGE IT! (Although Kyle wasn't fully convinced so we did go over and sit on a sofa while we called other mattress stores to make sure we were getting a good price.) On top of the good price we got 12 month free financing and have 30 days from day of delivery to get a lower price if it goes on sale more. And then we found a very nice eat in kitchen table with a butterfly leaf and 6 chairs clearance priced at 1/2 of MSRP. A couple grand later (and a smore's maker) we walk out of the store.
SOMEHOW, I was able to convince Kyle to walk around Legends a little bit with me and we spend another $150 on clothes for him (and a couple things for me ;) )
By then, we're exhausted and our wallets are empty - so we had to go home.
We started with the washer/dryer. We knew we wanted LG or GE. We headed out to Best Buy (because we hadn't looked there yet) and found exactly what we wanted within 20 minutes - at a great price! But, of course, we needed to check around to see if it was the BEST price. So we wrote down some info and headed out to the car to make some calls. Everywhere we called either didn't offer that model or sold it for about $100 more per piece.
The last place we called was Sears. They said they would honor that price and beat it by 10% - AWESOME! So, back into Best Buy we go... We asked if they would match that price. After some calling and manager approval they gave us Sears' price, and free delivery, and Best Buy points (about $20 worth), and the option to come back in a couple weeks to move it to their Best Buy Credit Card for 18 month free financing (I didn't want to open the card just yet seeing that we're trying to buy a house and all). So, we got a $1,600 MSRP washer/dryer for just over $1,000 - not too shabby in my book!
Kyle couldn't really handle any more shopping on Saturday so we took the night off.
Sunday we headed over to the Mart to check out Mattresses, Dining Tables, and Sofas. We found the mattress we wanted was on sale for about $200 less - CHARGE IT! (Although Kyle wasn't fully convinced so we did go over and sit on a sofa while we called other mattress stores to make sure we were getting a good price.) On top of the good price we got 12 month free financing and have 30 days from day of delivery to get a lower price if it goes on sale more. And then we found a very nice eat in kitchen table with a butterfly leaf and 6 chairs clearance priced at 1/2 of MSRP. A couple grand later (and a smore's maker) we walk out of the store.
SOMEHOW, I was able to convince Kyle to walk around Legends a little bit with me and we spend another $150 on clothes for him (and a couple things for me ;) )
By then, we're exhausted and our wallets are empty - so we had to go home.
If I Got Paid...
...for every time I went to the bathroom I would be a rich woman!
In fact, the other day, as I was getting up to flush the toilet I got the 'urge' again. REALLY? Kyle seemed to think that was hilarious.
In fact, the other day, as I was getting up to flush the toilet I got the 'urge' again. REALLY? Kyle seemed to think that was hilarious.
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